wind controller recommendations in 2021

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1 week 1 day ago #906 by imoxplus
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Interesting discussion, keep this going because it contains valuable input for my product roadmaps...

Personally I think the wind-controller you are asking for does not exist. Each wind-controller has its strengths and weaknesses.

The real solution for wind-controllers would be a modular approach where you can purchase various specialised hardware parts and easily assemble the finger-unit that fits your specific needs, all these parts would interact with eachother using a kind of databus. Such modular wind-controller is my ultimate goal. The Photon mouthpiece is the first step. Unfortunately I did receive news from the microprocessor manufacturer that the production is further delayed for 66weeks (due to covid) ...this is a hard hit for us to take, certainly knowing that we have a product ready to go....but we are not giving up and are looking for another microprocessor.

As Paul is saying, the existing wind-controller manufacturers are trying to enter the market of the traditional sax players. Sooner or later enough critical mass will be established to allow for a new generation of wind-controllers.

stay safe my friends...
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6 days 23 hours ago #907 by studiodid
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Hello rudy,
Happy with this contact since this long time!
66 weeks is this possible? It's more than a year!
I'm sure you're looking for another good solution for this "fun" of microprocessor.
Bien amicalement,
Didier
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6 days 22 hours ago #908 by Phil999
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thanks again Paul, indeed good information you provide. Regarding the Sylphyo, I might learn the fingering technique after a while, which I guess is similar to the techniques of a recorder. I started with recorders (soprano, alto, sopranino), and still have them and play them. But still ... once I could lend a flute for a day and night, and really enjoyed the sound and the extra keys, I got hooked to these instruments. Later I got the 4000s. It is no more available. The 5000 has no Bluetooth, and only a DIN MIDI out, so I cannot use the Yamaha BT-01. Sigh!

Now I tend towards the Roland Aerophone GO. It looks like it can be powered by an external power bank via USB C, and has Bluetooth 4.2, and extra keys. It's an ugly instrument, and I still have to find out whether it has programmable MIDI CC's and sensors, compared to the Aerophone AE-10 and Pro. Also I don't know how they work as pure MIDI controllers (the internal sounds I find rather pointless, even the latest ones with physical modeling), what octave range they have, and if it is possible to change two or three octaves instantly like with the brilliant octave wheels of the Pro line from Akai.

Besides, I also appreciate your sense of humour. The 'delayed by international fun and games... ' comment is really funny.

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6 days 21 hours ago - 6 days 21 hours ago #909 by Phil999
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big thanks to you <strong>Imoxplus</strong>, I didn't see your comment at first.

Well, this appears to be a really interesting topic indeed. I expected that in the meantime there would be at least two or three solutions available by now. Which is bad and good at the same time. Bad for the customers, and good for manufacturers. There is a gap on the market. Not a huge one, but a rather large one.

A modular design of a controller is certainly something good. I'm a modular synthesiser user since long time, and my entire studio is modular by design anyway. In recent years it has expanded into this even more, translating acoustic signals into analogue clock signals into MIDI clock, and acoustic pitch information into MIDI note information. Etc.

However, concerning a wind controller, I tend to prefer a non-modular approach for the note creation. It should leave no restrictions for traditional musicians. For other things like mouthpiece and I/O modules it makes sense of course.

- the layout of a breath controller is determined by the player's hands. One might (or should) consider a left-handed and a right-handed version
- the layout should include hardware short cuts to elevated or diminuated keys, like in traditional instruments
- the design has not much more cost if it has 9, or 15 plates/holes
- the design does not really need an OLED display, when it is a controller only
- therefore I recommend a pure controller without internal sound engine. Further development may include a sound engine like Respiro. But we already have the iOS app
- sensors: one for the left thumb in the right configuration. One for the right thumb for the left configuration. Tilt and roll. Maybe even acceleration.
- exchangeable mouthpiece is of course essential
- exchangeable BT or Wifi modules ... may have been important 10 years ago, but today you just implement them. They are at no significant cost, I assume. But this may have become difficult, delayed by international fun and games...
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6 days 21 hours ago - 6 days 20 hours ago #910 by Phil999
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what I also wanted to add: if I needed to have more expression, I simply attached an iPhone to the 4000s with a velcro strap, and sent its gyro data to the software. Moving the controller provided three MIDI CC's if I wanted.

This proved to be a better solution than using my FCB foot controller with two pedals and lots of switches, especially when I was doing music outdoors without 230V power supply.
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6 days 10 hours ago #915 by imoxplus
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Bonjour Didier
Yes, we are investigating another processor that is compatible, more powerful, same price range and available... Unfortunately, this is again a high cost to care....anyway, we believe in the Photon and will do our best to bring it to market.
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