how to disable glide transition, esp. for non-legato transitions?

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9 months 3 days ago #729 by marcozarco
I can't figure out how to disable glide transitions (at least for some instruments) and I especially want to disable the glide for non-legato transitions.

A specific example. For the "Camila flowers flute", if alternate hard staccato between D3 and D4 I hear a glide on the attacks.

I've tried setting the mode to real, synth, and setting the transition time to various values. I've also tried going into the global parameters and mapping "transition bypass" to various parameters (such as last midi note), but no luck.

I'm using Respiro 1.2.7 within Logic 10.5 from an EWI.

Is there something I'm missing? Thanks for your help.

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8 months 3 weeks ago #730 by imoxplus
First, sorry for late reply.... having some family matters to deal with..
I will check the Camila flower flute and get back to you

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5 months 5 days ago #845 by marcozarco
Hi Rudy, any updates on this?

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5 months 5 days ago #846 by imoxplus
Hey Marco...sorry this went off my radar…to be honest you are the only user reporting this.

Let me explain a bit about the sound engine
- Respiro's sound engine will always need a minimum of (attack) time to build up the sound for a new note
- Respiro will clear its pipe delay line (glide) each time pressure die drop to zero
- Respiro considers a glide (legato) between notes when pressure is not dropped between the played notes.

So, to play a note without glide the pressure must always drop to zero just before next note is played. I do achieve this with tonguing.
The faster the staccato the more correct timing (coordination) between my tonguing and the fingering is required otherwise Respiro will consider it as a legato note.

Maybe I’m not understanding your issue and should setup a skype session.

O yes, also make sure you do use the latest version of Respiro (check your download folder). Because I did some fixes for users that AT instead of CC02 to control the Respiro’s breath pressure.

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5 months 15 hours ago #849 by marcozarco
Hi Rudy,
I downloaded the latest version and I can still reproduce this.
For example, I can play a staccato D0, go get a cup of coffee, come back, and when I play a D4 I hear a scoop on the note. But the next D4 I play has no scoop.

One possibility of what's going on here is that my EWI4000 is sending Note Off before sending a zero on CC2 and perhaps Respiro is holding on to the last non-zero value?

19:42:33.904 From USB Midi Note On 1 D0 74
19:42:33.906 From USB Midi Control 1 2 80
19:42:34.072 From USB Midi Control 1 2 64
19:42:34.078 From USB Midi Control 1 2 51
19:42:34.084 From USB Midi Control 1 2 34
19:42:34.090 From USB Midi Control 1 2 17
19:42:34.096 From USB Midi Control 1 2 2 <<--
19:42:34.097 From USB Midi Note Off 1 D0 0. <<<
19:42:34.101 From USB Midi Control 1 2 0

I've reproduced this with Camila flower flute, Fluffly Clouds, Pedro PanPipe I, and some other sounds.

Thanks,
Marco

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5 months 8 hours ago #850 by imoxplus
Your "coffee time" comment did give me the right hint ;-)
I did now improve the note transition detection and will send you a test version of Respiro so you can check it out.

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